Bookmarks randomly changing order, and can't drag them properly
Recently (perhaps the last 6 months) I keep noticing that the order of bookmarks within folders sometimes changes.
For example, I have one folder where I keep bookmarks of all my discussions on a certain site. To create my bookmarks, I always drag the site down from the padlock icon into the folder. Newly-added bookmarks are always added to the bottom of the folder, so I know that they're all in chronological order - newer at the bottom. But lately, I'll sometimes go to that folder to find that many of the bookmarks have randomly changed order, and they never go back to where they used to be.
When this happens, I also find that I can't drag the bookmarks into the correct position. I'll drag the bookmark to where it's supposed to be, and the highlighted line will indicate where it's going to go. But when I let go of the button and go back to the folder, it's moved to some totally different, random place in the folder.
This doesn't seem to happen to all folders, only certain ones. Also, I've only noticed it happening in top-level folders, not nested folders.
I have over 25,000 bookmarks in total, so being able to keep them well-organized is important to me. I've used Firefox for about 12 years and this has never been a problem before.
Modified by MartyJames
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Are you using sync? Are you using any bookmark add-ons or programs?
[v57+] Places Maintenance is built into Firefox.
Type about:support<enter> in the address bar.
You will find Places Database near the bottom. Press the Verify Integrity button.
When done, copy and post the results here.
Hi Fred, thanks for the reply.
> Are you using sync? No, I would never touch sync.
> Are you using any bookmark add-ons or programs? I have in the past, but not for a while. (They stopped working with Quantum.)
> copy and post the Places Database results here OK:
> Task: checkIntegrity + The places.sqlite database is sane + The favicons.sqlite database is sane > Task: invalidateCaches + The caches have been invalidated > Task: checkCoherence + The database is coherent > Task: expire + Database cleaned up > Task: originFrecencyStats + Recalculated origin frecency stats > Task: vacuum + Initial database size is 76800KiB + The database has been vacuumed + Final database size is 76800KiB > Task: stats + Places.sqlite size is 76800KiB + Favicons.sqlite size is 69856KiB + pragma_user_version is 52 + pragma_page_size is 32768 + pragma_cache_size is -2048 + pragma_journal_mode is wal + pragma_synchronous is 1 + History can store a maximum of 161155 unique pages + Table moz_places has 158209 records + Table moz_historyvisits has 200614 records + Table moz_inputhistory has 64 records + Table moz_bookmarks has 27028 records + Table moz_keywords has 0 records + Table sqlite_sequence has 1 records + Table moz_anno_attributes has 5 records + Table moz_annos has 7925 records + Table moz_items_annos has 32 records + Table sqlite_stat1 has 18 records + Table moz_hosts has 0 records + Table moz_bookmarks_deleted has 5 records + Table moz_meta has 5 records + Table moz_origins has 12832 records + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_inputhistory_1 + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_keywords_1 + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_anno_attributes_1 + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_hosts_1 + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_bookmarks_deleted_1 + Index sqlite_autoindex_moz_origins_1 + Index moz_places_hostindex + Index moz_places_visitcount + Index moz_places_frecencyindex + Index moz_places_lastvisitdateindex + Index moz_historyvisits_placedateindex + Index moz_historyvisits_fromindex + Index moz_historyvisits_dateindex + Index moz_bookmarks_itemindex + Index moz_bookmarks_parentindex + Index moz_bookmarks_itemlastmodifiedindex + Index moz_places_url_hashindex + Index moz_places_guid_uniqueindex + Index moz_bookmarks_guid_uniqueindex + Index moz_annos_placeattributeindex + Index moz_items_annos_itemattributeindex + Index moz_keywords_placepostdata_uniqueindex + Index moz_bookmarks_dateaddedindex + Index moz_places_originidindex > Task: _refreshUI
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Hmm, Looks okay.
When do you notice the bookmarks changing? When Firefox starts? While using the browser?
Are the changes random or always 'reset' the same way?
> When do you notice the bookmarks changing?
It seems to be when Firefox restarts. I haven't noticed things moving around during a session, but that's not to say it's not happening.
> Are the changes random or always 'reset' the same way?
I cannot see any pattern to how they change. Usually, it seems like most of them stay in the same place, while a handful of them randomly move.
It's a difficult problem to troubleshoot as it doesn't happen every time I restart Firefox. I wish I knew what triggered it.
Modified by MartyJames
In case it helps, I've just made a screenshot of the DATES of one of these folders (below). The dates clearly aren't chronological, even though they should be, as I added them all the same way every time (dragging the padlock icon into the folder).
(Note that SOME of these could be in the wrong order due to me experimenting with manually rearranging them - but I didn't do that with more than 3 or 4 of them.)
Modified by MartyJames
Type about:support in the address bar and press Enter. Under the main banner, press the button; Copy Text To Clipboard.. Now in the Reply Box on the forum page, do a right-click in the box and select Paste.
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