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I have a Windows 10 pc, which is current with all Microsoft and manufacturer (Lenovo) updates. Thunderbird won't run since the last update. It just gives a message saying, "Your computer must be restarted to complete a previous upgrade of Thunderbird. Do you want to reboot now?" After several reboots, I have given up. A support forum solution from 4 years ago recommends deleting a file (global-messages-db.sqlite) at a location (C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\8charstring.default) that seems not to exist (hidden?) on my pc. What do you suggest? Thanks.

My Thunderbird Version: 115.12.2 (32 Bit)

Microsoft is changing the authentication method for outlook mail to OAuth2. I follow the guide here,

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202

And I get to this screen - but my version of the program does not have OAuth2 as an option (see attached image).

Thanks for the help.

I am using Windows 10 Home on an HP laptop. Some months ago, I began getting this error message when trying to start Thunderbird: Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. I've been slogging along using my Gmail reader since then but I need my address books from TB for my business. I really need to get this fixed.

I've read all the questions/replies on this and have uninstalled and reinstalled TB. My Appdata/Roaming/TB file only has 5 files in it: Crash Reports, Pending Pings and Profiles plus a couple of 1 KB config files. Don't know if this is right or not.

When I search the Profiles folder using .ini, I get this Notepad info:

[Install8216C80C92C4E828] Default=C:\Users\*\Documents\yvfr1fi4.default Locked=1

[Profile3] Name=thunderbird IsRelative=1 Path=Profiles/kavosmqu.thunderbird

I have this yvfr file on a thumb drive and I tried uploading that into the roaming/TB file but I still get the same error message.

Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you.

Tell me how I can continue to use thunderbird with the above account and also Denis.Clarke.hotmail.com after September 18. I have 4 individual historic E mail accounts and thunderbird joins them together. What do you need to do? To deal with threat below.

If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods.

In Thunderbird [Ctrl]+[B] doesn't initiate Bold text, in fact those keystrokes don't do anything at all. Any ideas as to why and how I can make this shortcut work? The other shortcuts for Italics and Underline work fine. Thank you for your time.

Hello:

So how does one do that?

Attempting a search online results in all about how to copy the PROFILE; haven't found how to get all of my emails over to my external drive where I can access them.

Thank you, Nels

I have read that in earlier versions (TB 102) arrows would appear on the left of the message header indicating that a message had been replied to or forwarded. I'm using TB 115 and there are no such arrows. I tried safe mode, but that made no difference. It would be helpful to see which messages have been replied to or forwarded, and which not.

Outlook says that it will no longer let third party mail apps like Thunderbird to access Outlook email as of September 16, 2024? What do you recommend?

"Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps

Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access.

The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th.

What do you need to do?

If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods.

Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.

How can you set up your Gmail, Apple Mail, or other third-party mail application?

Various non-Microsoft applications will have their own steps for connecting to your Outlook.com email account using modern authentication methods. See our help article - Modern Authentication Methods now needed to continue syncing Outlook Email in non-Microsoft email apps. However, you may need to contact the creators of those applications to provide you with instructions. In many cases, simply removing and re-adding your account with the latest version of that application will configure it to use modern authentication methods.

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I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmail accounts, I have to change the authentification method to Oauth2. The reasons and changes required are detailed here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202 I have 2 problems. 1. imap-mail.outlook.com - I can change my authentification method to Oauth2. However, when I then try to access my mail via TB, I get an error stating that the server imap-mail.outlook.com does not support the authentification method! (see image) 2. Outgoing Server SMTP There is no Oauth2 option available to choose!

Can anyone help? I am using the most up to date version of Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit).

I recently patched to Thunderbird 115.12.2, and discovered that threading has been turned on everywhere. Reading through the forum, I disabled threading by default in the config editor via mailnews.default_view_flags, and manually went through every folder setting "View" -> "Threads" -> "Ignore threads".

However, it appears that disabling threading is only honored for the inbox. Setting "ignore threading" on any other folder is ignored, and Thunderbird continues to thread.

For example here is the "Sent Mail" folder with "ignore threads" set (see screenshot) and it still displays with threading. Apparently, "ignore threading" only works with the inbox. I would like threading disabled on all folders, not just the inbox. If there was a switch to disable threading universally, that would be easiest for everyone who dislikes threading.

Thanks in advance. John N. jnyhuis@gmail.com

I use Thunderbird for all my emails. With gmail accounts, Thunderbird has an 'all mail' folder but that folder doesn't exist for my yahoo mail accounts.

Is there any way to create an 'all mail' folder (or functionality) with Thunderbird/Yahoo ?

Thanks for any help ! John

Got Thunderbird on 2 machines and both have the same issue. I did try running only one at a time and still I cannot fix it.

On a Yahoo! mail account I deleted a "Draft" folder and it was sent to Trash. If I empty the trash it's gone until I either click Subscribe... and refresh the folder list or reopen TB. Then the folder comes back into Trash. I can't get rid of it.

I logged into the account via their web-based interface and checked my folders. The folder I deleted is indeed no longer there. Not in Trash. Nowhere.

I'm not referencing it in the account either. The option to save drafts is set to the "Drafts" folder, not the "Draft" folder.

I configured the folder properties to be neither subscribed nor offline. I then went to "server settings" and checked "show only subscribed folders" and unchecked "server supports folders that contain sub-folders and messages".

I shut down TB and relaunched it. Folder still comes back. I then shut it down again and deleted any references from the profile's folderTree.json, folderCache.json and the corresponding .msf files. I start TB again, folders still come back.

Then on two AIM accounts I have again phantom "Draft" folders in each. They're unchecked from sync and offline availability. Again I go to "subscribe..." and uncheck them. They don't disappear. I have "show only subscribed folders" checked and still the folders show. I then click Refresh in the subscribe dialog to reload the folder list. They're all checked again.

How do I get rid of these folders? Particularly bewildering is the Yahoo! case where I've explicitly told TB that the account server does not support folders within folders, I don't understand how it can read anything client- or server- side and still reach the conclusion that it needs to restore a "Draft" folder in Trash.

These issues are happening exactly the same on 2 different Windows machines both running TB, affecting the same accounts.

Hello My friend is visually impared and is having great difficulty seeing to read emails. Is there any way to use Thunderbird to get the emails and then read them with text to speech to audio. Or can anyone think of another way. I will have to be simple too. Thanks.

Several upgrades ago, I created message filters in Thunderbird to forward emails received from specific senders to other email accounts that needed to get copies. While running version 115.12.1 32bit on Win 10, I had need to delete one of the filters. When I went to Menu Bar > Tools > Message Filters the Message Filters window does NOT show ANY filters regardless of which account (I have 20 and checked each) is selected. I have also searched my HDD, located all copies of msgFilterRules.dat and opened ones that might be related to the account in question. ALL of the msgFilterRules.dat files that I checked had only 2 lines.... version="9" and logging="no", except for the problem account where I had turned on logging and the .dat file showed "yes". I also went to yahoo and checked to see if I might have created the filter on the server side. However, according to yahoo, they discontinued the forwarding filter in 2021, so it's not happening there. I need to know how to find the forwarding filters and edit them.

From Sept-16-2024 Microsoft will deprecate Normal Password and require OAuth2 authentication on its email accounts accessed from Thunderbird and other clients.

I'm trying to convert my hotmail accounts on Thunderbird to OAuth2 authentication.

Server Settings Authentication can be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is an option in that menu.

But SMTP Server Authentication cannot be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is not an option in that menu.

Both Connection Security methods ( Inbound and SMTP ), are set to STARTTLS.

See screenshots, thank you.

I have been running Thunderbird for almost seven years now, and these behaviors have persisted since day one on my laptop and desktop computer. First, I have five accounts set up. I am running two add-ons (Provider for Google Calendar, and Quicktext). I am currently running a snap version 115.12.2 of Thunderbird on both machines and they both are running Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. Plenty of RAM and plenty of free disk space.

Here are the two issues...

1. More often than not, when an email comes into one of the inboxes and I am viewing the unified inbox there are two copies of the same email. If I switch back to the actual inbox of the account it only shows the one. This is very aggravating and when you start trying the delete emails from the unified inbox it gets all hosed up and I end up having to go to each individual mailbox to delete the messages.

2. This somewhat relates to issue one... Sometimes when an email is deleted from the unified inbox, a blank record remains like in the image. This shows only one but sometimes there are multiple ones. Of course, if I go to that message's inbox it is not there.

I have tried all the common things like deleting the index files to let the indexes rebuild, comparing folders etc., and again, this has been a persistent problem since day one. Any insight or solution would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you! Mike

System specs below. Thunderbird is set with 1 account: A paid Yahoo email, with a LOT of messages (well over 36K), using IMAP (Yahoo only lets the most recent 10K come down via IMAP, sadly). Most emails do download and are correctly rendered. But around 10%, starting usually a month or so back from the high water mark of last update, show email source code (text of headers, mimeparts, etc.) for a totally different email than the one highlighted (a few days later, different sender, etc.) Checking the message on Yahoo, it renders correctly. There is no pattern to the corrupted messages: they can be from mailing lists, company marketing mails, an alert from my local town, whatever.

Once the error occurs, it is consistent across Thunderbird shut-and-restarts (still showing same wrong email source as before). Emails to either side (earlier and later) render properly in the message pane.

Double Clicking the message to it's own child pane renders a pane with Subject and From as blank, and the same email source text for a different email. Forwarding the email puts the email source code in as text (I was hoping the act of refreshing and reformatting might grab the correct content, but no).

Doing a Repair Mailbox (which seems to mean "download headers again, then download all the mail again" does seem to correct for a time (including the previously corrupted emails now rendering correctly)... but within a day or two, a new crop of messages will be corrupted, and the dance starts again.

Windows 10, 64 bit. Norton 360 set to exclude all mailbox directories. Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit), though this has been happening since 110. No plugins, no extensions.

Are there diagnostic logs or other info I can share that can help us figure this out? I really like Thunderbird, but it's just unusable here. Outlook, Apple mail, other tools don't seem to have this problem.

When I click on a link from thunderbird mail to a specific website, it takes me to a log in page in the specified website where the email is automatically filled in. In firefox browser, I have cleared history for all time, including "form and search history", cookies, cache, browsing and download history, active log ins, site settings, and offline website data. I have deleted my log in for the specific website (the id and password for the site in settings, password section. In Thunderbird, I also deleted, in the Privacy and Security section, all "saved passwords" When I open up the page of the specific website in question, through Thunderbird, I continue to see on the log in page, that an old email I no longer use is entered automatically. When I type in firefox browser the same specified website, the old email address does not show up. That makes me think that the log in information is stored somewhere in Thunderbird, not firefox. What is the solution to remove this information whereever it has been stored?

I hope someone can help, I've changed all the settings in Thunderbird for my whole family's emails (hotmail.co.uk, hotmail.com, live.co.uk) from Normal Password to OAuth2. All incoming and outgoing servers are exactly the same as Microsoft advised. None of my accounts work, neither for sending or receiving.

I removed one account and tried to re-add it (that was the advice given if the first method didn't work) but when it tries to check the password, it takes forever. I've tried to manually configure it but it wouldn't download any folders or emails. I removed it and tried to re-add it but have been unable to do even that.

My default account hasn't been able to send more than 25% of emails for a few weeks. I'm up to date with all updates and I've restarted Thunderbird and my laptop countless times.

Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

A new problem since July 1, 2024 Thunderbird keeps crashing on start-up when checking for new mail. HELP!! Crash ID: bp-e8be7291-7fe9-41c0-bd21-45d860240702

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