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why does thunderbird no longer remember email adresses i posted to, unless they are in my adress book

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Hi, it used to be that once i used or typed an email adress in thunderbird it would autocomplete this even if it was not in my adressbook but just used before. due to the unreliability of government and industrie i have never used the adressbook. this prevented me and friends from some malware and crippleware that was designed to steal my email adresses. However in the new thunderbird edition autocomplete does not longer work and this means i will have to create an adressbook. What does the mozilla organisation want with my email adresses? i can see no other reason to force people towards this action as to accomodate criminals or governments. Please explain to me why this is done and how it helps the user (that's me, not the nsa) because after 10 years i'm now seriously considering dumping Thunderbird as an email client.

Hi, it used to be that once i used or typed an email adress in thunderbird it would autocomplete this even if it was not in my adressbook but just used before. due to the unreliability of government and industrie i have never used the adressbook. this prevented me and friends from some malware and crippleware that was designed to steal my email adresses. However in the new thunderbird edition autocomplete does not longer work and this means i will have to create an adressbook. What does the mozilla organisation want with my email adresses? i can see no other reason to force people towards this action as to accomodate criminals or governments. Please explain to me why this is done and how it helps the user (that's me, not the nsa) because after 10 years i'm now seriously considering dumping Thunderbird as an email client.

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Thunderbird has since V3 automatically added to the collected address book all outgoing mail addresses, it then has them to auto fill when you type. So you have been using the address book.

Did you perhaps turn this off?

BTW, It may have escaped your notice, but Thunderbird stores it's data on your computer. I have no idea where the paranoia about Mozilla having or wanting your address book comes from, but only those with access to your computer have access to your Thunderbird data.

The NSA already have every email you sent, or have it, if they want it. They most certainly have access to who you mail as it is impossible to route mail to an address if it is not available to the software doing the routing.

Does the government have access to paper mail going through the sorting machine and have access to anything written on the outside of the envelope. Yes! The same goes for email. The From and To are equivalent to information written on the outside of an envelope. The big difference is that email is sent in the clear, so it is the digital equivalent of a post card. Anyone snooping transmissions (Read up on Wireshark as an example of how it is done) has access to the complete transmission without any form of encryption.

See S/MIMe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME PGP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

for information of email encryption.

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Thunderbird has since V3 automatically added to the collected address book all outgoing mail addresses, it then has them to auto fill when you type. So you have been using the address book.

Did you perhaps turn this off?

BTW, It may have escaped your notice, but Thunderbird stores it's data on your computer. I have no idea where the paranoia about Mozilla having or wanting your address book comes from, but only those with access to your computer have access to your Thunderbird data.

The NSA already have every email you sent, or have it, if they want it. They most certainly have access to who you mail as it is impossible to route mail to an address if it is not available to the software doing the routing.

Does the government have access to paper mail going through the sorting machine and have access to anything written on the outside of the envelope. Yes! The same goes for email. The From and To are equivalent to information written on the outside of an envelope. The big difference is that email is sent in the clear, so it is the digital equivalent of a post card. Anyone snooping transmissions (Read up on Wireshark as an example of how it is done) has access to the complete transmission without any form of encryption.

See S/MIMe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME PGP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

for information of email encryption.

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Matt, I'm seeing the same problem here. Options all appear to be set correctly. For example, "Save sent-to addresses" is set to save in Collected Addresses. Yet Thunderbird is neither saving incoming nor outgoing email addresses. This happened when upgraded from an older XP machine to a new Windows 8.1 machine.

You say something about maybe the person has turned that option off, but I don't find any setting that turns it on or off (aside from the one above, which is under composition and addressing in Options.

Hope that's clear. Any guidance appreciated.

Kevin San Francisco