Morning people again.. I asked yesterday and got a reply, THANK YOU, but I cannot reply to that person as Outlook is really being silly. I tried, and only succeeded in deleting that email. I believe I have an "old" Thunderbird program on this laptop, and even though I have downloaded the New version, it is picking up that old version, from about 2023. OK, my IT nerd neighbour is coming over later, and she will wave her "magic wand" and see what is going on. I know the IMAP, POP etc codes for Outlook, and manually changed them last night, still the login via T Bird fails. I can read replies, and suggestions, but I CANNOT reply to you. Frustrating, heck yes, and almost rude on my part, but NOT my doing. Thanks for understanding. Grant. The Old Fossil in OZ.