btw forgot to mention only way to actually get ff to be responsive at all times is to have task manager running at the same time. And I mean responsive to the point the window close button won't respond without task manager running in the background. And yes I have tracked this down to a flash related problem, ff runs perfectly with flash completely uninstalled, but this is not a workable solution with the web being as it is.

hello tralio, please try to reset firefox and see if this can address the issue: Refresh Firefox - reset add-ons and settings

worked for a minute, soon as I logged back into facebook crashed flash again, then back to needing task manager open to click at all in the ff window. Only ff window is affected, can click outside but won't drop/close window. Can pull up other browser windows and work fine. Facebook just for fact it's flash intensive and thus a good test platform for flash issues.

N.B. we are having discussions at the moment on the forum issues. You could read them here I have even linked it to this post of yours.

Rather a longshot but if you think Flash issues may cause this

• Ensure Flash and all RealPlayer related plugins are kept up-to-date
• Consider trying with Realplayer plugins, disabled or temporarily uninstalled, as they have been known previously to interfere with Flash Player
• Try Flashplayer with Adobe's protected mode disabled http://kb.mozillazine.org/Flash#Flash_Player_11.3_Protected_Mode_-_Windows
• see also Flash Plugin - Keep it up to date and troubleshoot problems
  Flash 11.3 doesn't load video in Firefox

That actually worked, Realdownloader Chrome Background Extension Plug-in 1.3.2.28 appears to have been the problem. If not dowloading with a chrome plugin on ff is what i have to deal with then I will..... :p (not sure why a chrome plugin is installed on ff but it's real, so who knows). Thanks for the help everyone, much appreciated, and great catch John99.

Great glad it is working, and thanks for posting back.

John: If your response is to Tralio sentence "How does it take a user like myself (been using ff for 7 or more years) 4 different pages to actually get to one to ask a question? " then why when I click you link I get Page Not Found. I too would like to ask a question, but have yet to find a page or link to do so.So, please explain while I'm here let me ask Ihave a laptop Win VISTA eunning ff ver. 24.0 and a desktop Win 7 running ff 23.0.1. Both versions show "you have latest version installed". How can this be?

John99: If your response is to Tralio sentence "How does it take a user like myself (been using ff for 7 or more years) 4 different pages to actually get to one to ask a question? " then why when I click your link I get Page Not Found. I too would like to ask a question, but have yet to find a page or link to do so.So, please explain how or where to go. While I'm here let me ask: I have a laptop Win VISTA running ff ver. 24.0 and a desktop Win 7 running ff 23.0.1. Both versions show "you have latest version installed". How can this be?

Hi dshand, when Mozilla releases a full version update for Firefox, distribution is initially limited to avoid overloading the servers and to allow time to detect any major problems.

In the near future, you should be offered an update on your Firefox 23.0.1 system -- unless something is very broken there.

If you want to get Firefox 24 now, you can choose the version for your language here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/

jscher2000: this worked fine. Thank you. Now, not to a pain, could you (or anyone) show me how or where to Ask a Question? I have all around forums and still not found a spot, link or window to post a question, (or start a new feed?)

Hi dshand, at the very top of the page you should find an "Ask a Question" link. The process goes through several screens with suggested articles that answer the most common questions, but if they don't sound relevant, scroll pass the suggestions to continue submitting your own new question.

well, i just got here ... finally added in search how to find a way to ask a new question and it brought me here. Easier to navigate thru a government site (Yikes !) ... will try what the above post suggests ... i'm off :)